For those of you who live in the United States, what are your opinions on this bill that just went through?

"The time for us to deal with this crisis has been NOW for quite some time."... that... the... how is... that makes...
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Ok, listen. Wanting to have a balanced budget is not like wanting to have Atlantis rise from the see. It's super fun and exciting to engage in hyperbole, but be a little more careful when you pull it out or you just end up looking like a fool.
Let's scale this down, treat this like this is your life. You wake up one morning and you're suddenly stricken with this overwhelming sense of charity, you just wanna help everybody. You sell everything you have, you go into massive debt within a couple weeks, and you feed and clothe a couple dozen people who then say thanks and go on with their merry lives, and now that you're homeless too you have a lot more friends with which to share their cardboard boxes and bean soup with.
Or, you can start a business, make a profit, use all that money towards your charitable impulses, you still have a home, you don't starve, you start small, helping one person at a time, until your endeavor grows and grows perpetually and you help far more people for far longer and you yourself don't lose your shirt.
Which one seems like a better idea? For you, and for the people you're trying to help?

Every day I'm becoming more and more confident that he's on his way out. You can disagree, that's fine. We'll just wait and see.

You find fault with my comment about Atlantis and think it's unrealistic hyperbole? You tell me to me careful about using it, and then you say something like this about charity? I'm sorry but I don't think you have room to criticize.
Furthermore, do you think everyone can just "start a business"... that's your solution? I've owned a business in my time - it's very hard to get started generally, usually takes 3 to 5 years just to reach break-even status, and over half of all businesses fail in the first year of operation. (Mine lasted 3 years - but who's counting...)
You talk about having a home and starting a business in one breath. I don't have the statistics on how many people actually own a home, much less the means to start a business, but I am quite certain a large majority fall "below the bar" and have neither. So borrowing money to start a business without equity and collateral is very close to impossible.
What has all this to do with public health care initiatives. Well ... it's all related, of course, but it certainly isn't "integral" to the issue. The issue, as I see it, revolves around the provision of reasonable health care for everyone, including the disenfranchised majority of people who have neither houses to call their own, or businesses to generate revenue so they can be "charitable".
So ... in essence, you are talking about Atlantis Rising in much the same way as I was. However, I was making a "smart-*ss remark to keep it light and a little funny. But you were trying to make a serious argument with your analogy ... which was both uncharitable and, frankly, unreasonable.

Well this has gone off the deep end, C U

Obama ain't going nowhere. The almighty fat old white rich men of the GOP are dinosaurs. And anybody voting GOP not of that way is a blooming idiot. The GOP has alienated women, non-whites, gays, and virtually everybody else under the sun. Why is the US the only country in the world without public health care? Can't wait to get my MBA and get the hell out of here.

.....ugh.
Basic point: you have to look out for yourself before you can look out for others. Sorry if you got confused, but I thought I was being pretty flippen clear about that.
Ya don't have to own a home, just as long as the help you're giving out still allows you to afford rent on WHATEVER you're living in, that should be your first priority. Again, simple point, and you went way off the reservation with it. Ugh.
Yes, it IS hard to do, that's the POINT. It's easy to just give and give and give and not worry about how it's affecting you or the people you're trying to help. It's hard to do it smart to where you're able to keep doing it, and growing it, and not destroying your entire livelihood because By Golly it just feels so gosh darn good to give, how can it be wrong.
Anyways, here's a better argument. You can fix healthcare, but NOT THIS WAY. Here's one of the MANY Republican solutions to healthcare that's been provided.
Fully repeals the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Allow individuals to deduct 100 percent of their health care expenses, including insurance;

Increases contribution limits and adds patient-friendly reforms to Health Savings Accounts

Moves Medicare to a more flexible premium assistance program

Expand choice and competition by allowing consumers to shop for health insurance across state lines;

Makes it easier for groups to create association health plans, which would allow businesses, individuals and other entities to band together to increase availability and negotiate lower costs for their employees or members.
For all those people who claim that Republicans have no plan, I can give you the benefit of the doubt that you're just ignorant up until this point, but now that you know it's wrong, if you keep saying it, YOU ARE LYING. If you let other people who are on your side get away with saying it, YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN A LIE.

Yea those white guys like Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindall and Michalle Bachman and Thomas Sowell and Allen West.
We get it, you hate white people. You're a racist, neat. Now gtfo troll.


*Also I want to correct something I said earlier. Before I said that the top six richest senators were Democrats, and I was looking at the 2007 figures. As of 2011 the top two richest senators are Republicans. The 7 others below them are Democrats, and let's see.... all white guys. No wait... that last one is Diane Feinstein my mistake, you can understand.

Another question not related to Atlantis. If these GROWN UP COUNTRIES are so good why do so many of their richer people who have serious medical problems come to the USA kindergarten medical facilities.

....hmmmmmm

I'd like to see the USA get to the point where those who strongly believe in social programs pay for the social programs. Put your money where your mouth is.