If KAT was a political party, what would be its platform? in Community >
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17 September 2012, 00:21 (8 months ago)
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hmm kat can be political but needs to strengthen some points...and some modify some rules too.
Can you expand on this thought?
 I think the policies of the UK's Monster Raving Loony Party would be very apt for KAT.
Monster Raving Loony Party Policies Last edited by Wolfeymole4437, 8 months ago  I think us fantastically smart people would know to stay out of politics if we knew what was good for us...  Whoa, now this is a scary notion for people in the land of the free and the home of the brave. That is a scary notion, and might explain why things are currently so screwed up in the "land of the free and the home of the brave... But I think one of the main planks in a KAP party platform -- in my opinion -- ought to be freedom of thought, freedom of knowledge and freedom of information. To make it fair to those who produce knowledge and share it, however, maybe do two things: 1.) Let the price of ebooks sold go down to a realistic, fair level with authors receiving more than publishers. You know, like US$2.99 or so like Amazon used to sell them before the publishers fixed prices at the same level as printed books (which is absurd and actual piracy). 2.) Keep track of free ebook downloads and let the UN or the governments where the authors live pay top-downloaded authors in different categories an annual amount (or a tax break) so that they are being compensated for being good. Knowledge should be free, but those who provide knowledge should be able to live decently and there should be encouragement for others to write in hope they will be recognized and compensated. Last edited by realjossb201, 8 months ago I was a bit surprised when the marijuana initiative failed to pass last time in California. However, my solution to the drug issue/problem in general would be both less and more drastic than the federal revision of marijuana classification. What I would do (and this is something that would be eminently doable) is I would authorize the creation of free use zones that would be administered by the DEA which would be set up on federal land like old military bases (this way they would be outside the jurisdiction of state laws. In the free use zone, basically anything would go (with the exception of suicidal administrations). The only requirement would be that before people would be allowed to leave the zone, they would be required to sleep it off so they could return to the world in a sober, clear-headed manner. Now, the benefits of this program would be: 1. It would allow the government to compete with drug traffickers and suppliers. Since the government could supply safe, pure drugs at a far cheaper prices, the laws of supply and demand would eventually put them out of business. 2. The stigma of drug use as a rebellious lifestyle would be altered and people would begin to see that getting wasted is (frankly) foolish and bad for your health, etc. 3. The popularity of drug use would create a powerful initial surge of interest in this program which would in turn create many jobs in the construction of housing and commercial sites and in the operation of these sites. 4. The concentration of druggies in one place would allow churches and civic groups to supply on site counseling for people who want it. And medical staff would be on call 24/7 if people have one to many. 5. The drug cartels in Mexico would see which way the wind is blowing and go into politics or something and stop this horrendous slaughter going on south of the border. 6. This places would inspire artists and musicians and architects and could become models of green clean social places. 7. Etc. Etc. I agree with a lot of the things you say, but in the U.S. calling for drug legalization is one of the reasons the Libertarian party never gains any traction and wins at the polls. Any political movement that tries to combine drug legalization with P2P "piracy" is simply not going to get anywhere. And if a "Pirate" political party is going to ever actually succeed in North America it is going to have to present itself as not advocating "illegal" or "immoral" ideas. Focus on freedom of knowledge and freedom of information, and show that downloads actually help lesser known artists or authors make more money and that it is the corporate structure that are the actual bandits and some sense might finally start to come into politics. And then we move on to other issues as the Party gets rolling. After all, people who know more -- especially more history, politics, economics, etc. -- aren't as easy to fool, brainwash, lie to or control...and that in itself would lead to a totally different political system. But that's just my two cents. YMMV.  Last edited by realjossb201, 8 months ago   I voted and supported Ron Paul last time and this. But he's getting old...sadly. Stone libertarian, and we wouldn't be at war and our prisons wouldn't be so filled that we have to have private prisons...and of course, all the 'private' soldiers...otherwise known as mercenaries....
Freedom is libertarian...hint "liberty" ... But not what most people really want...most people are either religious, and want Christianity to be in there, or all for more socialism and unions, especially public employee, hence, democrats.... All I had to do was put a little bit of time into studying up on what the different parties stood for, and I've been a libertarian ever since...seems like anybody who likes a good torrent would be so inclined :) Also, FWIW, the constant carping accompanied by this silliness: "YOu can't win, don't waste your vote." Is so ridiculous: apply this kind of thinking to *any* party and you needn't vote at all: your one little vote won't make a bit of difference, blah blah blah. I'm a citizen, I vote, and I vote for the candidate who's overall views I think are best for america. And since just about everybody I know has a family member or friend who has been incarcerated due to drug use, I don't buy that anti-libertarian crap either. Leave people alone, give freedom a chance...you might like it. Last edited by duckfeet401, 8 months ago Wolfeymole4437
I think the policies of the UK's Monster Raving Loony Party would be very apt for KAT.
Monster Raving Loony Party Policies I had to go Google the MRLPP. Interesting history, sad about the founder committing suicide. They seem (as a political party) a bit long on complaints and short on viable solutions. They seemed to become bogged down with the political process. KAPP I would see more as a think tank than a political machine. The world is long on political machines but short on ideas.
realjossb201
I think us fantastically smart people would know to stay out of politics if we knew what was good for us... Whoa, now this is a scary notion for people in the land of the free and the home of the brave. That is a scary notion, and might explain why things are currently so screwed up in the "land of the free and the home of the brave... But I think one of the main planks in a KAP party platform -- in my opinion -- ought to be freedom of thought, freedom of knowledge and freedom of information. To make it fair to those who produce knowledge and share it, however, maybe do two things: 1.) Let the price of ebooks sold go down to a realistic, fair level with authors receiving more than publishers. You know, like US$2.99 or so like Amazon used to sell them before the publishers fixed prices at the same level as printed books (which is absurd and actual piracy). 2.) Keep track of free ebook downloads and let the UN or the governments where the authors live pay top-downloaded authors in different categories an annual amount (or a tax break) so that they are being compensated for being good. Knowledge should be free, but those who provide knowledge should be able to live decently and there should be encouragement for others to write in hope they will be recognized and compensated. I don't disagree with the notion of freedom of thought or about the pricing of Amazon books. I am a contributing author at Amazon but I also upload my books here on KAT for free.
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