KAT's Female Members03 June 2012, 08:41 (11 months ago)
It has been brought to my attention that some of our female members are suffering sexual innuendo via the pm system. If this is the case, then it needs to stop and stop now. If you are having problems with a certain member regarding sexual pm's then please contact a staff member straight away and we will deal with it.
~ I have also been told that some of our female members will not come forward as they feel that nothing is ever done regarding these issues. This is not the case, as we do take such actions very seriously and act upon them accordingly. If it is proven that you are harassing female members for sexual gain, then your account maybe removed without prior notice. Before such an action is taken, we will endeavour to seek both sides of the story and mediate between the members in question. ~ You will then be informed of our findings and what the outcome will be. If however you think the findings or penalty do not meet with your agreement, then it will be passed higher up to admin. Those inturn will look at all the evidence and present you with their outcome. ~ Alternatively if you would like to talk with a female moderator then please do not hesitate to contact VladSam37588 as they will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. It has saddened me having to post such a thread, and I hope there will be no more in the foreseeable future. Mods and Staff Members Regards Kickass Staff Last edited by SMoK3™18100, 5 days ago 40 replies before
I mean that when sombody does stuff that not Appropriate kat users can report him/her and when sombody gets to much reports the kat staff (mods superusers) bend them over the case and say what will happen to him/her We do! what you can't see that i can is an extra tab called 'moderation' on your profile.. if a user stuffs up it's reported and kept via the date.. if another mod comes along and is going to 'moderate' he/she can view previous warnings by other mods... we don't miss much here :) Bayfia12212
Well, I think positive communications are great fun. No objections. But you know, there's always somebody ready to claim that you provoked them, that you encouraged them and, if they are annoying you, that "you asked for it". It's hard to know where the line is... from either side. (And some people wouldn't know where "the line" is, if you painted on their forehead.) So it's one of those chances we take ... How's that other old saying go? "Oh what webs we weave, when first we practice to deceive."
Hey, Bayfia....wanna go out with me???
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I feel like I have to say something regarding some posts here. Keep in mind that I don't intend to upset or attack anybody here. I deeply respect all men and women that are part of this community and all people in general. I have a feeling that some people in this forum are starting to get paranoid in a sense that they feel their "security" is being threatened. The person that I had a big misunderstanding with knows who she is and I don't want to confront her as it was her decision to ignore me. I respect that, but claiming that a person is a security threat can be a really hurtful thing to say regardless of gender or world view. After a conversation with a moderator things got settled peacefully of course. Even today I still don't understand why I was blocked specifically but I respect the decision made and will not confront it I just wanted to share my opinion. I just hope that this thread doesn't instigate some sort of sexist war that I've seen countless times on many large forums throughout the internet as that will undeniably cripple the whole community without any chance of recovery. I wish you all a great day. Respectfully, Alex. I just hope that this thread doesn't instigate some sort of sexist war that I've seen countless times on many large forums throughout the internet as that will undeniably cripple the whole community without any chance of recovery. I wish you all a great day. Respectfully, Alex. without knowing a single thing about the situation except what you just wrote, I feel compelled to respond. I am not the female member that feels threatened, but I do take offense at the suggestion that bringing this subject up and having a civilized discussion about it in an open forum will somehow "undeniably cripple the whole community without any chance of recovery"! that is wholesale hogwash and I cannot, in good conscience, allow such a tactic to stand unchallenged. your use of the word "paranoid" is quite loaded and is completely in keeping with the tendency to "blame the victim". just because a woman feels threatened by something that another person is not threatened by does not mean she is being paranoid. it means that her personal sense of security has been impinged upon in some fashion and that is making her feel unsafe. each and every person on this planet has a built-in sense of what is safe and what is not safe; however, for each person, the threshold of tolerance is set at a different level. the aggregate of everyday experiences are what determine our individual settings. people who have grown up in a war torn country have VERY different tolerance settings than do people who grew up in a country during peace time. that does not mean that people with no experience of war are "wusses" just because they flinch at the sound of gun fire or smell of death. so, your use of the word "paranoid" is very suggestive of the fact that you do not value this woman's experience of her own safety threshold. as for "I don't want to confront her", you just did. on a thread that was specifically created to address the problems that your particular situation brought into stark relief. IMHO, that's pretty freaking confrontational and passive-aggressive on your part. as no one in the community aside from the mods and staff knew who was involved, thus the ONLY reasons for you to be posting about the situation is to: a)let the woman and everyone else who cares to read this know that you do not respect the gravity of the situation or the damage that might have been caused; and b) to attempt to divide the community on this issue by "unmasking yourself" and claiming to be blameless because the woman was obviously "paranoid". you state, "...things got settled peacefully of course". again, this smacks of a total disregard for the woman involved and actually has a bit of the feel that somehow you have an "in" with the powers that be and "of course" they took your side in this trivial little matter. no where in this post of yours is an apology or any sort of admission that you might have indeed done something to frighten this woman. in fact, you end your post with the dire warning that I quoted at the beginning of my post: " I just hope that this thread doesn't instigate some sort of sexist war that I've seen countless times on many large forums throughout the internet as that will undeniably cripple the whole community without any chance of recovery." this is a blatant attempt to sway the opinions of the entire community, including the staff and mods, to your side of this situation. also, it does a very good job of letting the women of KAT know that, in your mind, to speak of the subject of sexism and that to, gods forbid, report a man for sexist abuse is to endanger the world as we know it. and that statement shows everyone exactly how you feel about this situation in specific and women in general. in short, your own words condemn you to being seen as you truly are. thank you for that. VladSam37588
I just hope that this thread doesn't instigate some sort of sexist war that I've seen countless times on many large forums throughout the internet as that will undeniably cripple the whole community without any chance of recovery. I wish you all a great day. Respectfully, Alex. without knowing a single thing about the situation except what you just wrote, I feel compelled to respond. I am not the female member that feels threatened, but I do take offense at the suggestion that bringing this subject up and having a civilized discussion about it in an open forum will somehow "undeniably cripple the whole community without any chance of recovery"! that is wholesale hogwash and I cannot, in good conscience, allow such a tactic to stand unchallenged. your use of the word "paranoid" is quite loaded and is completely in keeping with the tendency to "blame the victim". just because a woman feels threatened by something that another person is not threatened by does not mean she is being paranoid. it means that her personal sense of security has been impinged upon in some fashion and that is making her feel unsafe. each and every person on this planet has a built-in sense of what is safe and what is not safe; however, for each person, the threshold of tolerance is set at a different level. the aggregate of everyday experiences are what determine our individual settings. people who have grown up in a war torn country have VERY different tolerance settings than do people who grew up in a country during peace time. that does not mean that people with no experience of war are "wusses" just because they flinch at the sound of gun fire or smell of death. so, your use of the word "paranoid" is very suggestive of the fact that you do not value this woman's experience of her own safety threshold. as for "I don't want to confront her", you just did. on a thread that was specifically created to address the problems that your particular situation brought into stark relief. IMHO, that's pretty freaking confrontational and passive-aggressive on your part. as no one in the community aside from the mods and staff knew who was involved, thus the ONLY reasons for you to be posting about the situation is to: a)let the woman and everyone else who cares to read this know that you do not respect the gravity of the situation or the damage that might have been caused; and b) to attempt to divide the community on this issue by "unmasking yourself" and claiming to be blameless because the woman was obviously "paranoid". you state, "...things got settled peacefully of course". again, this smacks of a total disregard for the woman involved and actually has a bit of the feel that somehow you have an "in" with the powers that be and "of course" they took your side in this trivial little matter. no where in this post of yours is an apology or any sort of admission that you might have indeed done something to frighten this woman. in fact, you end your post with the dire warning that I quoted at the beginning of my post: " I just hope that this thread doesn't instigate some sort of sexist war that I've seen countless times on many large forums throughout the internet as that will undeniably cripple the whole community without any chance of recovery." this is a blatant attempt to sway the opinions of the entire community, including the staff and mods, to your side of this situation. also, it does a very good job of letting the women of KAT know that, in your mind, to speak of the subject of sexism and that to, gods forbid, report a man for sexist abuse is to endanger the world as we know it. and that statement shows everyone exactly how you feel about this situation in specific and women in general. in short, your own words condemn you to being seen as you truly are. thank you for that. I knew this would eventually happen, somebody to dissect every single word in a post that was written as peacefully as I possibly could. You obviously enjoy debating semantics and that's understandable. What you might find offensive could be different from other people's opinion thus you inadvertently created conflict where there was none. I'm not a native English speaker so I apologize if the use of some word offend you. I don't know how you think I feel about the subject but rest assured I'm not looking to create conflict or separation. I only expressed my concern based on my experience moderating many diverse forums in the past. You saying that my post is a "blatant attempt to sway the opinions of the entire community" has absolutely no basis what so ever and it is clearly an attack only meant to insult me and my views without even trying to explain WHY it's so "blatant". I respect your views but I reject all you said as being false and unnecessarily confrontational. As I said, I respect all members of the community and would never do anything to split or damage their integrity. I don't mind a good debate but please don't go about trying to mar my reputation in the community by twisting words into something monstrously outrageous. I will not delete or edit my post to please you or anybody who feels offended, my goal was not to please but to present my opinion. You are welcome to report me IF you found anything offensive in my post as that is your right but I would much prefer a normal discussion as I believe it's the most efficient way of resolving a debate.
Respectfully, RyPeR. I did not suggest that you to edit your post, nor did I make any mention of reporting it. I simply read what you wrote and responded to it. I neither twisted your words nor made any attempt to mar your reputation. Neither did I attack you.
What I did do, was to respond in a clear headed and analytical way to a post that I find disturbing. That is all and I find it amusing that you should decide that just because I responded, that somehow makes me guilty of not having a "normal discussion". That idea would be even more funny had it not been used for centuries to keep women silent in the face of oppression. Oh, just for the record...you are not the only person who has "experience moderating many diverse forums in the past". Again you take the stance that by responding to you, a woman is some how endangering the stability of this community. That, I take offense to. I take my membership here at KAT and service to this community very seriously and that is the reason I responded in the first place and why I am posting here now. To have debate is to be analytical. If you cannot handle having your words and the motives behind them examined in that way without accusing the examiner of personal attack, I would respectfully suggest that you not put them out there for all to see. Remember, you implicated yourself in this situation...no one else did. |










